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		<title>Comment on Today is Blasphemy Day 2011 by Hcg Diet Houston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hcg Diet Houston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2013 00:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Creative. My thanks for writing that. I&#039;ll definitely return here to see what&#039;s new and tell my people about your site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creative. My thanks for writing that. I&#8217;ll definitely return here to see what&#8217;s new and tell my people about your site.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So much for religions coexisting by baidu censor</title>
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		<dc:creator>baidu censor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 04:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Other countries censor content and not just rogue regimes such as the Iranian mullocracy. Poor people!  http://www.baidu.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Other countries censor content and not just rogue regimes such as the Iranian mullocracy. Poor people!  <a href="http://www.baidu.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.baidu.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on What are we to God? by Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2013 00:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello again if you have any more questions for me Id be heartwarmed to answer them to the best of my abililty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again if you have any more questions for me Id be heartwarmed to answer them to the best of my abililty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are we to God? by Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 23:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi! 

You are not alone. This is a question I think so many people struggle with even as Christians. What are we to God? And &quot;Why does he allow terrible things to happen.&quot; &quot;Where is God when we are in pain and why if he is so powerful and claims to love us so much does he not stop bad things from happening?&quot;

I&#039;m actually reading a book right now where a young woman turns from God after the tragic death of her mother and grape of her sisters. She tries to take matters into her own hands but only ends up making matters worse. 

I know that I tend to rail at God when things are not going well. To shake my angry fist at the sky and tell him its his fault. But really I&#039;m blind to see that I may be the cause of the problem or when tragedy strikes that we live in a sinful, selfish, broken world and that these are not the acts of God but of the devil. 

How do we battle this? Through him. In him. With him. By him.

Here is a conversation in The Red Siren by M.L.Tyndall

 Faith: &quot;But He&#039;s God. He can stop them. He can protect us.&quot; 

Dajon: &quot;Yes, He can.&quot; &quot;But pephaps He had other plans. Maybe he allows things to happen that will lead us in a different direction, or bring us closer to Him,  or strengthen our character. We do not know. That is were trust comes in.&quot; 

&quot;Trust? Faith snickered. &quot;When everything is crumbling down around me?&quot;

&quot;Aye. That is what trust is. Ti&#039;s easy to trust when all is well.&quot; &quot;Trust His word is true Mrs. Westcott,  that He loves you,  that &#039;all things work together for the good of them that love God&#039; and then see what he can create out of life&#039;s worst calamities&quot;

We must trust. He is trustworthy. Trust is never easy. Its a choice I have to make every day. And he knows you better than you know yourself! I am praying for your heart, that whatever broke it can be healed. 
Sorry for the long explanation! I feel like I just wrote a book :) 
Peace be with you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! </p>
<p>You are not alone. This is a question I think so many people struggle with even as Christians. What are we to God? And &#8220;Why does he allow terrible things to happen.&#8221; &#8220;Where is God when we are in pain and why if he is so powerful and claims to love us so much does he not stop bad things from happening?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually reading a book right now where a young woman turns from God after the tragic death of her mother and grape of her sisters. She tries to take matters into her own hands but only ends up making matters worse. </p>
<p>I know that I tend to rail at God when things are not going well. To shake my angry fist at the sky and tell him its his fault. But really I&#8217;m blind to see that I may be the cause of the problem or when tragedy strikes that we live in a sinful, selfish, broken world and that these are not the acts of God but of the devil. </p>
<p>How do we battle this? Through him. In him. With him. By him.</p>
<p>Here is a conversation in The Red Siren by M.L.Tyndall</p>
<p> Faith: &#8220;But He&#8217;s God. He can stop them. He can protect us.&#8221; </p>
<p>Dajon: &#8220;Yes, He can.&#8221; &#8220;But pephaps He had other plans. Maybe he allows things to happen that will lead us in a different direction, or bring us closer to Him,  or strengthen our character. We do not know. That is were trust comes in.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;Trust? Faith snickered. &#8220;When everything is crumbling down around me?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Aye. That is what trust is. Ti&#8217;s easy to trust when all is well.&#8221; &#8220;Trust His word is true Mrs. Westcott,  that He loves you,  that &#8216;all things work together for the good of them that love God&#8217; and then see what he can create out of life&#8217;s worst calamities&#8221;</p>
<p>We must trust. He is trustworthy. Trust is never easy. Its a choice I have to make every day. And he knows you better than you know yourself! I am praying for your heart, that whatever broke it can be healed.<br />
Sorry for the long explanation! I feel like I just wrote a book <img src='http://www.quietatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Peace be with you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Apologise for Hitler by Nevahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nevahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2012 15:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahem...I beg their pardon, but it seems to me that they are a bit confused about the reality of what happened...I believe that they it is they who should be apologizing for Jasenovac, a concentration camp in Croatia, headed by a FRANCISCAN FRIAR, where thousands of Jews (and even Christians) were murdered. Here, The CATHOLICS burned their victims in kilns, most were burned alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first), the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi &quot;Sicherheitsdient der SS&quot;, watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them....making him just as guilty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahem&#8230;I beg their pardon, but it seems to me that they are a bit confused about the reality of what happened&#8230;I believe that they it is they who should be apologizing for Jasenovac, a concentration camp in Croatia, headed by a FRANCISCAN FRIAR, where thousands of Jews (and even Christians) were murdered. Here, The CATHOLICS burned their victims in kilns, most were burned alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first), the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi &#8220;Sicherheitsdient der SS&#8221;, watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them&#8230;.making him just as guilty.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are we to God? by Slugsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slugsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So your all powerful deity created us to love him. That seems a little conceited, and doesn&#039;t sound like any form of &#039;perfect being&#039; that I could think of. Sounds like a self centred jerk to me.

Personally I&#039;m glad that a being like that doesn&#039;t appear to be in charge. Anyone who creates a universe just to stroke his massive ego isn&#039;t worthy of a moment of my consideration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So your all powerful deity created us to love him. That seems a little conceited, and doesn&#8217;t sound like any form of &#8216;perfect being&#8217; that I could think of. Sounds like a self centred jerk to me.</p>
<p>Personally I&#8217;m glad that a being like that doesn&#8217;t appear to be in charge. Anyone who creates a universe just to stroke his massive ego isn&#8217;t worthy of a moment of my consideration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on What are we to God? by Elizabeth A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elizabeth A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 17:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Thats not true, we do matter to God, in-fact we are Him best creation, and He loves us more then we can begin to imagine. To answer your question about why these things happen, i can&#039;t tell you, but if we read through the bible we know that God created us to love Him and bring glory to Him, But we let sin get in the way. But God is still in control, and there is still hope for those who put their hope in Him. His plan in bigger then the sin that has consuming the world. God is sovereign and amazing, and yes, compared to Him we are nothing. But He loves us more then anything. No, i can&#039;t comprehend it either. All I know is I&#039;m glad Gods in charge because if anyone or anything else was in charge I would not want to be around right now!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Thats not true, we do matter to God, in-fact we are Him best creation, and He loves us more then we can begin to imagine. To answer your question about why these things happen, i can&#8217;t tell you, but if we read through the bible we know that God created us to love Him and bring glory to Him, But we let sin get in the way. But God is still in control, and there is still hope for those who put their hope in Him. His plan in bigger then the sin that has consuming the world. God is sovereign and amazing, and yes, compared to Him we are nothing. But He loves us more then anything. No, i can&#8217;t comprehend it either. All I know is I&#8217;m glad Gods in charge because if anyone or anything else was in charge I would not want to be around right now!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Strange Bible References by Marvin Diallo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marvin Diallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 00:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To begin with, you have to desire to go to a Bible School, and you have to need to know and grow with your knowledge of, and relationship to, Christ. Schools also need a minimum era of 17 on admission day, and doing senior high school.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To begin with, you have to desire to go to a Bible School, and you have to need to know and grow with your knowledge of, and relationship to, Christ. Schools also need a minimum era of 17 on admission day, and doing senior high school.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Haiti Earthquake by ba-ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>ba-ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Nov 2011 05:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;ba-ron...&lt;/strong&gt;

[...]Haiti Earthquake &#124; quietAtheist[...]...]]></description>
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<p>[...]Haiti Earthquake | quietAtheist[...]&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on In support of Rebecca Watson by David Stewart</title>
		<link>http://www.quietatheist.com/index.php/2011/09/in-support-of-rebecca-watson/comment-page-1/#comment-7937</link>
		<dc:creator>David Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really hope you don&#039;t start getting hate mail from people of Bathgate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope you don&#8217;t start getting hate mail from people of Bathgate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In support of Rebecca Watson by C. C. Velvet</title>
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		<dc:creator>C. C. Velvet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 02:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to join in on the glorification of weakness and cult of perpetual victimhood, yes, go join the Watson support group. If the price of being right is being a misogynist it was all of you who made it that way and so be it; I will own it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to join in on the glorification of weakness and cult of perpetual victimhood, yes, go join the Watson support group. If the price of being right is being a misogynist it was all of you who made it that way and so be it; I will own it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spiritual Science Research Foundation by gles7</title>
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		<dc:creator>gles7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 04:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, spoken like a true gentleman. 
For your point, &lt;&gt; 
As explained in my earlier response, due to complexity of Sanskrit language (overloaded word meanings) and lack of Sanskrit experts in modern times, it has been difficult to decipher Vedas correctly. More focus was on ritualistic aspects than scientific concepts. I am going through them as I write this blog response and hopefully be able to contribute more in the future. Meantime, I will also invite you to read SSRF documents and let me know if any points need specific clarity and would adding citations from Vedas help?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, spoken like a true gentleman.<br />
For your point, &lt;&gt;<br />
As explained in my earlier response, due to complexity of Sanskrit language (overloaded word meanings) and lack of Sanskrit experts in modern times, it has been difficult to decipher Vedas correctly. More focus was on ritualistic aspects than scientific concepts. I am going through them as I write this blog response and hopefully be able to contribute more in the future. Meantime, I will also invite you to read SSRF documents and let me know if any points need specific clarity and would adding citations from Vedas help?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spiritual Science Research Foundation by Slugsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slugsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 22:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and I am open to new ideas. But I am the sort of person who values evidence. Tell me about something, and demonstrate that it is true and I&#039;ll consider your point valid. But as Carl Sagan said &#039;Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence&#039;.

I&#039;d also like to say that I really do appreciate you visiting my blog, and taking the time to comment. It is always good to discuss ideas with someone who doesn&#039;t necessarily hold the same viewpoint as yourself. Hopefully each side can come away better educated even if neither changes their position. I don&#039;t think you can have too much knowledge. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I am open to new ideas. But I am the sort of person who values evidence. Tell me about something, and demonstrate that it is true and I&#8217;ll consider your point valid. But as Carl Sagan said &#8216;Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence&#8217;.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to say that I really do appreciate you visiting my blog, and taking the time to comment. It is always good to discuss ideas with someone who doesn&#8217;t necessarily hold the same viewpoint as yourself. Hopefully each side can come away better educated even if neither changes their position. I don&#8217;t think you can have too much knowledge. <img src='http://www.quietatheist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Spiritual Science Research Foundation by Slugsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slugsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 22:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Firstly, I need to clear one thing up. I am not discounting something simply because it is old.

The ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans all believed in their own pantheons of gods. Modern studies of these ancient cultures tell us about those beliefs, the gods, and the people. There is nothing in that that disproves (or proves) the existences of those gods.

Yet virtually no-one nowadays believes in their existence. Go figure.

Now, on to these Sanskrit Vedas. I freely admit that I know nothing about them. I have just had a quick scan through the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wikipedia article&lt;/a&gt; about them and I&#039;m not really that much wiser. Best I can tell they seem to date up to 4000 years old, and are purported to be &#039;not of human agency&#039;. Now, I obviously can&#039;t comment directly on the scientific value of anything written in the texts, but I have my suspicions. I wouldn&#039;t be at all surprised if the texts were as accurate and predictive as Nostradamus - i.e. not at all, just very woolly and open to huge amounts of interpretation.

I believe that if such ancient texts - and it seems to me that there are not just these Vedas that are claimed to be scientifically predictive but the likes of the books of the Bible have similar claims - did truly have valid and predictive scientific knowledge contained within them then they would be cited an awful lot in scientific literature, and their scientific validity would not be up for debate. Whilst study of the texts themselves is a very valid branch of archaeological research, it will be purely to better understand the peoples and culture of the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, I need to clear one thing up. I am not discounting something simply because it is old.</p>
<p>The ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and Romans all believed in their own pantheons of gods. Modern studies of these ancient cultures tell us about those beliefs, the gods, and the people. There is nothing in that that disproves (or proves) the existences of those gods.</p>
<p>Yet virtually no-one nowadays believes in their existence. Go figure.</p>
<p>Now, on to these Sanskrit Vedas. I freely admit that I know nothing about them. I have just had a quick scan through the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia article</a> about them and I&#8217;m not really that much wiser. Best I can tell they seem to date up to 4000 years old, and are purported to be &#8216;not of human agency&#8217;. Now, I obviously can&#8217;t comment directly on the scientific value of anything written in the texts, but I have my suspicions. I wouldn&#8217;t be at all surprised if the texts were as accurate and predictive as Nostradamus &#8211; i.e. not at all, just very woolly and open to huge amounts of interpretation.</p>
<p>I believe that if such ancient texts &#8211; and it seems to me that there are not just these Vedas that are claimed to be scientifically predictive but the likes of the books of the Bible have similar claims &#8211; did truly have valid and predictive scientific knowledge contained within them then they would be cited an awful lot in scientific literature, and their scientific validity would not be up for debate. Whilst study of the texts themselves is a very valid branch of archaeological research, it will be purely to better understand the peoples and culture of the time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Spiritual Science Research Foundation by gles7</title>
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		<dc:creator>gles7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2011 00:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One more thing, I don&#039;t have evidence to prove that vedic texts are indeed 4.5 mil or more years old as they were on parchments and have been passed on from generation to generation. Verses within vedas are only evidence that I could put forth. I know that won’t be sufficient. Techniques such as carbon dating won&#039;t work as there’s no physical evidence of original books. Interestingly, Verses within these vedas mention about concept of Yugas or large eras of universe times. These eras have been believed to be from 1.7mil to 430K durations. Concept of big bang and comic origin melds well with vedic concepts of cyclical nature of time.  I believe vedic texts were referred to by later texts (such as Mahabharata, ancient cave writings in Indonesia, India, Iran etc.), which have been proven to be 4-5 thousand years old. Point is, yes there’s a leap of faith to certain extent, but we should not discount writings as bogus if there&#039;s no way to prove their authenticity either-way. Spirituality is a science as it has life concepts, evidence of distresses that overshadow human life, and remedies that look inward than outside. Remember, by same attributes, psychology was not recognized as science till very recently, although it was practiced for thousands of years by Greeks, Romans, Persians, Egyptians. Please be open to new ideas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing, I don&#8217;t have evidence to prove that vedic texts are indeed 4.5 mil or more years old as they were on parchments and have been passed on from generation to generation. Verses within vedas are only evidence that I could put forth. I know that won’t be sufficient. Techniques such as carbon dating won&#8217;t work as there’s no physical evidence of original books. Interestingly, Verses within these vedas mention about concept of Yugas or large eras of universe times. These eras have been believed to be from 1.7mil to 430K durations. Concept of big bang and comic origin melds well with vedic concepts of cyclical nature of time.  I believe vedic texts were referred to by later texts (such as Mahabharata, ancient cave writings in Indonesia, India, Iran etc.), which have been proven to be 4-5 thousand years old. Point is, yes there’s a leap of faith to certain extent, but we should not discount writings as bogus if there&#8217;s no way to prove their authenticity either-way. Spirituality is a science as it has life concepts, evidence of distresses that overshadow human life, and remedies that look inward than outside. Remember, by same attributes, psychology was not recognized as science till very recently, although it was practiced for thousands of years by Greeks, Romans, Persians, Egyptians. Please be open to new ideas.</p>
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